Pedro Gets the Victory, Shane Gets Doused

Pedro Gets the Victory, Shane Gets Doused

Was the Pedro outing everything we expected? And more? Or was it basically the kind of outing that Jamie Moyer could have put up?

Let's Compare the Lines of their last starts:
          IP  H  R ER BB SO HR PC-ST ERA 
Pedro: 5.0 7 3 3 1 5 0 99-64 5.40 
Jamie: 5.0 11 3 2 1 1 0 97-63 5.47 

Not much difference, huh? But Pedro is still being stretched out. And his last inning followed the previous inning where the Phillies scored 8 runs perhaps cooling off the 3 time CY Young winner? I don't know. And maybe it helped a bit to get some runs too. The Phillies pounded out 12 runs on 14 hits. The Phillies combined for 15 hits and 6 runs in Moyer's last two outings.

But overall the performance was a positive one even if the results were mixed (beerleaguer fan reaction). We didn't get any worse. And while Moyer's ego might be a bit bruised, the Phillies are 4.5 games in first (gaining a game back from the Marlins tonight.) And Pedro earns another start or two.

Mahalo is Hawaiian for One Old Style Please

Victorino ShowerI'm sure the ESPN et al will ignore the dousing Victorino received. Fortunately, Deadspin hasn't and they are on top of it. I'm sure there will be someone like Mike Celizic or Skip Bayless who will blame Victorino himself for his actions on Sunday? Or maybe they will just blame the excess Phillies fans in the crowd? I don't know. I kind of figure that the guy who doused Vic was Steve Bartman who was just trying to reach out into fair territory to grab the ball and mistakenly dropped his beer.

Or maybe it was a relative of Ed Rapuano?

Other suspects include the Ligues, Mr. Met and Russel Martin.

As far as I'm concerned Chicago fans have dropped below Phillies fans on this one. Just terrible. Here's what former Phillies Manager Lee Elia has to say about them fans.

"bleep those bleepin' fans who come out here and say they're Cub fans that are supposed to be behind you rippin' every bleepin' thing you do. I'll tell you one bleepin' thing, I hope we get bleepin' hotter than bleep, just to stuff it up them 3,000 bleepin' people that show up every bleepin' day, because if they're the real Chicago bleepin' fans, they can kiss my bleepin' ass right downtown and PRINT IT.

"They're really, really behind you around here... my bleepin' ass. What the bleep am I supposed to do, go out there and let my bleepin' players get destroyed every day and be quiet about it? For the bleepin' nickel-dime people who turn up? The motherbleepers don't even work. That's why they're out at the bleepin' game. They oughta go out and get a bleepin' job and find out what it's like to go out and earn a bleepin' living. Eighty-five percent of the bleepin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A bleepin' playground for the cocksuckers. Rip them motherbleepers. Rip them bleepin' bleepsuckers like the bleepin' players. we got guys bustin' their bleepin' ass, and them bleepin' people boo. And that's the Cubs? My players get around here. I haven't seen it this bleepin' year. Everybody associated with this organization have been winners their whole bleepin' life. Everybody. And the credit is not given in that respect.

"Alright, they don't show because we're 5 and 14... and unfortunately, that's the criteria of them dumb 15 motherbleepin' percent that come out to day baseball. The other 85 percent are earning a living. I tell you, it'll take more than a 5 and 12 or 5 and 14 to destroy the makeup of this club. I guarantee you that. There's some bleepin' pros out there that wanna win. But you're stuck in a bleepin' stigma of the bleepin' Dodgers and the Phillies and the Cardinals and all that cheap bleep. It's unbelievable. It really is. It's a disheartening bleepin' situation that we're in right now. Anybody who was associated with the Cub organization four or five years ago that came back and sees the multitude of progress that's been made will understand that if they're baseball people, that 5 and 14 doesn't negate all that work. We got 143 bleepin' games left.

"What I'm tryin' to say is don't rip them bleepin' guys out there. Rip me. If you wanna rip somebody, rip my bleepin' ass. But don't rip them bleepin' guys 'cause they're givin' everything they can give. And right now they're tryin' to do more than God gave 'em, and that's why we make the simple mistakes. That's exactly why."

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Pedro Gets the Victory, Shane Gets Doused

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Was the Pedro outing everything we expected? And more? Or was it basically the kind of outing that Jamie Moyer could have put up? And who doused Vic?
Pedro Gets the Victory, Shane Gets Doused

Was the Pedro outing everything we expected? And more? Or was it basically the kind of outing that Jamie Moyer could have put up?

Let's Compare the Lines of their last starts:
          IP  H  R ER BB SO HR PC-ST ERA 
Pedro: 5.0 7 3 3 1 5 0 99-64 5.40 
Jamie: 5.0 11 3 2 1 1 0 97-63 5.47 

Not much difference, huh? But Pedro is still being stretched out. And his last inning followed the previous inning where the Phillies scored 8 runs perhaps cooling off the 3 time CY Young winner? I don't know. And maybe it helped a bit to get some runs too. The Phillies pounded out 12 runs on 14 hits. The Phillies combined for 15 hits and 6 runs in Moyer's last two outings.

But overall the performance was a positive one even if the results were mixed (beerleaguer fan reaction). We didn't get any worse. And while Moyer's ego might be a bit bruised, the Phillies are 4.5 games in first (gaining a game back from the Marlins tonight.) And Pedro earns another start or two.

Mahalo is Hawaiian for One Old Style Please

Victorino ShowerI'm sure the ESPN et al will ignore the dousing Victorino received. Fortunately, Deadspin hasn't and they are on top of it. I'm sure there will be someone like Mike Celizic or Skip Bayless who will blame Victorino himself for his actions on Sunday? Or maybe they will just blame the excess Phillies fans in the crowd? I don't know. I kind of figure that the guy who doused Vic was Steve Bartman who was just trying to reach out into fair territory to grab the ball and mistakenly dropped his beer.

Or maybe it was a relative of Ed Rapuano?

Other suspects include the Ligues, Mr. Met and Russel Martin.

As far as I'm concerned Chicago fans have dropped below Phillies fans on this one. Just terrible. Here's what former Phillies Manager Lee Elia has to say about them fans.

"bleep those bleepin' fans who come out here and say they're Cub fans that are supposed to be behind you rippin' every bleepin' thing you do. I'll tell you one bleepin' thing, I hope we get bleepin' hotter than bleep, just to stuff it up them 3,000 bleepin' people that show up every bleepin' day, because if they're the real Chicago bleepin' fans, they can kiss my bleepin' ass right downtown and PRINT IT.

"They're really, really behind you around here... my bleepin' ass. What the bleep am I supposed to do, go out there and let my bleepin' players get destroyed every day and be quiet about it? For the bleepin' nickel-dime people who turn up? The motherbleepers don't even work. That's why they're out at the bleepin' game. They oughta go out and get a bleepin' job and find out what it's like to go out and earn a bleepin' living. Eighty-five percent of the bleepin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A bleepin' playground for the cocksuckers. Rip them motherbleepers. Rip them bleepin' bleepsuckers like the bleepin' players. we got guys bustin' their bleepin' ass, and them bleepin' people boo. And that's the Cubs? My players get around here. I haven't seen it this bleepin' year. Everybody associated with this organization have been winners their whole bleepin' life. Everybody. And the credit is not given in that respect.

"Alright, they don't show because we're 5 and 14... and unfortunately, that's the criteria of them dumb 15 motherbleepin' percent that come out to day baseball. The other 85 percent are earning a living. I tell you, it'll take more than a 5 and 12 or 5 and 14 to destroy the makeup of this club. I guarantee you that. There's some bleepin' pros out there that wanna win. But you're stuck in a bleepin' stigma of the bleepin' Dodgers and the Phillies and the Cardinals and all that cheap bleep. It's unbelievable. It really is. It's a disheartening bleepin' situation that we're in right now. Anybody who was associated with the Cub organization four or five years ago that came back and sees the multitude of progress that's been made will understand that if they're baseball people, that 5 and 14 doesn't negate all that work. We got 143 bleepin' games left.

"What I'm tryin' to say is don't rip them bleepin' guys out there. Rip me. If you wanna rip somebody, rip my bleepin' ass. But don't rip them bleepin' guys 'cause they're givin' everything they can give. And right now they're tryin' to do more than God gave 'em, and that's why we make the simple mistakes. That's exactly why."

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